The water issue revisited

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The water issue revisited

Postby DickeyP » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:26 am

Yep,
Started thinking about the end of the world again. So back to water. I was cleaning the hot tub yesterday and it got me thinking....here is a 600 gal water container that could be used in case Obama gets re-elected..(sorry no politics)...in case of civil unrest.

My question are these,
Can you drink this water for an extended time without getting sick? (with out filtering)
Just because my kids may pee in it, is it safe?
If i was to hook up a pur filter on it will it take all the chlorine, and ick out of it???


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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby Balloonknot » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:09 pm

My understanding is that a put filter won't filter chlorine. I looked into getting a specific chlorine filter for my shower once. Chlorine was originally developed as a biological weapon during ww1 and now used as a lesser evil so I think drinking it could be bad but lesser than no water at all. Buy a chlorine filter and u got a water stash.
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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby dapozer » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:18 pm

Stagnet water is a great breading ground for some really bad microorganisms, you would need to be able to turn the 600 gallons throught a filter at the least 1 times a day if not more. If you could filter it out like a fish tank and run some bio network and turn it over 30/40 time a day would be best. Also would need to look at a good cover for it so you would not lose a bunch of supply to evaporation. Yes it could be done, Filter is key, more filtration through bio media and the chlorine will go down or away. Like you even put chlorine in the tub.......
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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby RockRash » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:35 pm

me personal keep myself ready by keeping my fire arms ready i keep at least 1000 rounds (really more)of ammo for my military guns i shoot 5.56 7.62 by 39 and 7.62 by 51 and the trusty .45 and 9mm that pretty much covers all the rounds used by militarys around the world including nato so if something was to happen where i needed supplies i didnt have i can go get them after all if it comes to that might as well take care of ur own :bandb:
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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby poolboy » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:52 pm

OK since I am the resident "Poolboy", I will chime in on Spa water chemistry.

First off, the treated city water you add to your spa (hot tub) is at the desired or "ideal" chemical levels. There is chlorine in it already, roughly 1-2 ppm. and the ph is at 7.4 which is ok. Already drinkable since it comes from your house plumbing. You would have to maintain, but not exceed these levels, by much in order to use it as drinking water. To do this you would have to filter the water and add chemicals to maintain the correct levels.

Here are a couple of reason you need to add chemicals to your hot tub.

1. HEAT. Heat bakes the chlorine out of the water. Since you keep your hot tub about 100 deg, the chlorine is used and needs to be replaced. The most popular way of replacing the correct amount of chlorine is to use bromide tabs or chlorine granules. By adding these chemicals, you inadvertently raise the ph, so you will have to balance that also.

2. CONTAMINENTS. Enter your... dead skin cells you shed off all day long, sweat, lotions, laundry detergents not fully rinsed from your suits, and other things you don't want to admit happens in your tub. (i.e. urine, jiz among other things)

You could use your hot tub as your own personal "watertower" but here are a few things to consider. You would have to have power to it to keep the water filtered. Most hot tubs have filter cycles programmed in to the software to turn the complete body of water through the filter at least once a day at the lowest filter setting. I would also turn the heat down as far as you could (most hot tubs 60 or 80 deg), and not using it as intended, to prevent as much chem loss as possible, Have a way of rinsing you filters every few weeks, and chems to maintain the proper levels. I think it is feasible to do this and by the way, most spas are only 300-375 gal.
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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby poolboy » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:00 pm

Billy said"Just because my kids may pee in it, is it safe?"

isn't fresh urine sterile?
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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby jollyroger » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:32 pm

Don't make me get Big Bob to weigh in on this subject. J-Bone is the resident expert with pool and tub chems. Dad has the degree for everything else. Pee raises the ammonia content. Bad if concentrated so don't pee where you are gonna drink. Charcoal filter takes care of most water contaminates and chemicals if I understand correctly.

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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby poolboy » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:08 pm

12GaugePump wrote:


Disclaimer: The extent of my knowledge has been overrun by this thread. Anybody gives me shit about it and I am runnin to my Daddy. I may do it anyway.[/quote]

Big Bob should be on here anyway.
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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby jollyroger » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:37 pm

I know. He would never leave the house if he was on our site.
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Re:The water issue revisited

Postby poolboy » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:02 am

we could give him his own section...."Big Bob's stories from back when!"... Filled with related and unrelated facts about wheeling in the 21st century. That would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!:cheer:
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